benefits

Mon, 04/17/2006 - 11:26pm -- coffee_chic21
Starbucks Forum: 

This question may have been asked many times over, but I'm new so bear with me. I've heard that Starbucks offers benefits for PT workers, but they don't always give part-timers 20 hours. But most part-timers can supplement their hours at other stores. Why isn't that a solution? I've heard some stories about some shysty starbucks' that cut employees hours superlow so that they couldn't reach 20 even with supplementation but that surely cant' be happening all over.

Submitted by Star on

[quote=coffee_chic21]This question may have been asked many times over, but I'm new so bear with me. I've heard that Starbucks offers benefits for PT workers, but they don't always give part-timers 20 hours. But most part-timers can supplement their hours at other stores. Why isn't that a solution? I've heard some stories about some shysty starbucks' that cut employees hours superlow so that they couldn't reach 20 even with supplementation but that surely cant' be happening all over.[/quote] chic21, I believe that baristas ,do indeed, sometimes, get reduced hours to keep from qualifing for benefits. I have heard about this happening. This one reason that the Baristas are organizing with the IWW Union in New York City, the baristas are organizing for more hours,better wages and working conditions.

Submitted by haydeegomez on

Well, at the stores at which I worked in California, even when partners called other stores in their area, the computer would then schedule for even FEWER hours in the future weeks. I don't know if that is still happening, or if that happens in all locations. Also, many partners were calling the same stores, so there still were not enough hours to go around.

Submitted by SarahMurdoch on

huh?
Labor hours are fixed by total sales / transaction ratios. The labor hours would have nothing to do with where a barista worded or did not work as each store would be indipendent of the other.
Baristas need to have open avilablity. At my store there are those who complain they do not get enough hours but are only avalibe two days a week ... what can you do.

Submitted by southbux on

Sarah my open availability does not gauruntee to me that I will get 35 hours, 20 hours or even 10 hours a week. As someone who is management you should know and concede that. It is my understanding that while the ALS does do the most of the work for the manager in regards to coverage, managers do have a lot of room to tweak what ALS comes up with. "The computer did it not me," is the excuse I have heard managers use most over the years. I do not find that excuse acceptable, I do not find any sales/transaction ratios acceptable, I find no excuse acceptable when it has a negative impact on my life.

And by the way Sarah I have completely open availability and I will be working exactly 21 hours this week.

Submitted by SarahMurdoch on

sorry my point was ... if you aresay to work at your primary store 20 hours and you work at another store say 10 hours it does not mean that the primary store will reduce your hours.
The reality is if you need to work full time ... do not work in retail.

Submitted by Spootie on

Star you are right on the money! yes they want to eliminate eligibility to save money. remember when they sent out the dvd with insurance information on it? That was a warning of then next move-
and
yes southbux you are also right having open avaibility does not make it so you can have 20 hours. If your manager dosen't like you you are out, less hours and crapy shifts close one night early rise the next day.

Come on people if your manager knows what the hell they are doing your permant or temporary avaibility in the chain keeps this from happening. Managers are using it as a excuse to screw partners they don't like or don't want in their stores.

Submitted by Star on

[quote=Spootie]Star you are right on the money! yes they want to eliminate eligibility to save money. remember when they sent out the dvd with insurance information on it? That was a warning of then next move-
and
yes southbux you are also right having open avaibility does not make it so you can have 20 hours. If your manager dosen't like you you are out, less hours and crapy shifts close one night early rise the next day.

Come on people if your manager knows what the hell they are doing your permant or temporary avaibility in the chain keeps this from happening. Managers are using it as a excuse to screw partners they don't like or don't want in their stores. [/quote]Spootie,workers at Starbucks are getting stiffed if they cant work enough hours to qualify for medical. Its very simple why employees dont get the hours to qualify for benefits. If there are two full time employees at 40 hours each,for a total of 80 hrs,Starbucks replaces these two full time employees and hires 5 part time employees at 16 hours each per week,just under 20 hrs,needed to qualify for medical coverage. Good for Starbucks,bad for employee. When you have younger shift leads and inexperienced managers,that leads to abuse of their power in a lot of cases. Employees can get in trouble over trivial matters,when leads or mgrs. are not fully versed in employee relations or maybe the leads and mgrs are engaging in their own devices,in allocating availability hours,unknown to higher authority. Employees get stiffed by favortism and you may or may not get 20 or more hours. Starbucks can do better with its employees,for a profitable company and expanding,the company wants to profit off the backs of its baristas by cutting costs at all cost. I support Starbucks employees who want to join with the IWW Union.

Submitted by DontFormAUnion on

"I do not find any sales/transaction ratios acceptable."

What...the...fuck? So what you're telling us, is that Starbucks should schedule Baristas whatever hours they want, and completely disregard labor? Find me one company that doesn't look at labor when making a schedule.

Submitted by DontFormAUnion on

[quote=Star][quote=Spootie]Star you are right on the money! yes they want to eliminate eligibility to save money. remember when they sent out the dvd with insurance information on it? That was a warning of then next move-
and
yes southbux you are also right having open avaibility does not make it so you can have 20 hours. If your manager dosen't like you you are out, less hours and crapy shifts close one night early rise the next day.

Come on people if your manager knows what the hell they are doing your permant or temporary avaibility in the chain keeps this from happening. Managers are using it as a excuse to screw partners they don't like or don't want in their stores. [/quote]Spootie,workers at Starbucks are getting stiffed if they cant work enough hours to qualify for medical. Its very simple why employees dont get the hours to qualify for benefits. If there are two full time employees at 40 hours each,for a total of 80 hrs,Starbucks replaces these two full time employees and hires 5 part time employees at 16 hours each per week,just under 20 hrs,needed to qualify for medical coverage. Good for Starbucks,bad for employee. When you have younger shift leads and inexperienced managers,that leads to abuse of their power in a lot of cases. Employees can get in trouble over trivial matters,when leads or mgrs. are not fully versed in employee relations or maybe the leads and mgrs are engaging in their own devices,in allocating availability hours,unknown to higher authority. Employees get stiffed by favortism and you may or may not get 20 or more hours. Starbucks can do better with its employees,for a profitable company and expanding,the company wants to profit off the backs of its baristas by cutting costs at all cost. I support Starbucks employees who want to join with the IWW Union.[/quote]

If you have 2 people working 40 hours a week, and one gets sick, who covers? If you have 5 people working 16, and one gets sick, there's more room to cover. I've seen this from experience, when a store is understaffed and people get a lot of hours, they complain when they can't get a shift covered. Then, when a store is staffed normally, they complain about losing hours. It's a lose-lose situation for managers. Starbucks baristas can either accept the fact they work a part-time retail job, or work at other stores for the hours.

Submitted by classic on

ok, this is something we face in our store right now. The AssMan doesnt know how to do a schedule and doesnt know how to hire. He is constantly hiring students who only need 16 or 20 hours a week. Then, his people that are looking for more fulltime hours (such as myself) get shafted by a bunch of students who only got this job in the first place sso they could have spending money. most of them dont event pay rent.. What this leads to are great variances in hours that are unpredicatble. one week i will be working 35, the next week i will be working 20. Cant live off of an unstable income..

additionally, the AM constantly misschedules people. He will have someone working swing shifts all week and then come next week, he will have them working opening shifts. often enough, somebody will have a closing shift back to back with a morning shift.

He then proceeds to complain every week how hard and stressful it is to incorporate everyones needs into the schedule. Yet the solution is very simple-
-hire workers with near to full time availability and full time need

-establish set schedules ( no more back to backs)

-establish set hours along with set schedules

this saves everyone a headache. additionally it makes all the baristas more in tips because there is less staff.

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